Friday, February 22, 2008

School Board Candidate Open House Mtg

You can meet the candidates for the school board on Saturday March 1st at the the Green Lake library. 10:00 am to 12:00 noon.

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

I feel we need a change in our current school board members. Thats why I will be supporting, Dennis Deyo, Amy Pipho and William Boutwell. Please attend this open house meeting.

Anonymous said...

What change do we need as you see it? What would the new members do that the existing board members are not doing?

Anonymous said...

Hey I'm just like Obama, "Change we can believe in". but unlike Obama I feel it's time we get some conservative people on the school board. Opps I said the "C" word!!! To much liberalism up there, or should I say communism. Opps I said another "C" word sorry, I should have said “Progressive” thinkers, my bad.

Anonymous said...

well that wasn't much help. Any other more constructive comments out there?

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that Green Lake school is headed in a great direction right now, thanks in large part to the existing school board and the "progressive" thinking administration. There is the International Baccalaureate initiative, the Charter School, the two years of having to make budget cuts due to the QEO and the efforts of the Board to offer more listening and educational sessions on areas such as the budget, differentiated learning styles and open meetings with the public. This board has made more efforts to communicate with the public than ever before. The basic desire for our students to be able to work in this global world truly seems to be their agenda. As a citizen of Green Lake and a parent of Green Lake students I am very grateful for all the work they have done. It is a hard job and thankless at that, but a very important one. From this Green Lake parent my vote is to continue with the excellent job the current Board is doing.

Anonymous said...

Yikes! The reason the board has had to "communicate" so much with the public is to try to justify the mess they and the administrators have made of the school. I completely agree with mike and go mccain - It's time for a change.

Anonymous said...

We have the "need more conservatives" and we have the "I like the progressives".

So, for those unhappy with the school, what specifically are you unhappy with or what needs a change of leadership to accomplish?

Changing to the far right or left doesn't seem like a real good option.

Anonymous said...

I feel that we need school board members that not only listen to the community but also support them.

Anonymous said...

books....we need more books.

Anonymous said...

What exactly is an International Baccalaureate school, and what will it mean for Green Lake?

I agree with the above statement about communicating to justify the mess the current administration has made of our schools. I will be voting for several of the new candidates.

As for "change we can believe in", the notion of Obama as president is frightening beyond belief. Our country will be headed for total anarchy soon. The very foundation of our country needs to be protected from his socialist agenda. Mr. Obama won’t wear an American Flag lapel pin on his suit coat but on the wall of his Houston campaign office: a Cuban flag with a picture of Communist mass murderer Che Guevara.

Anonymous said...

This is exactly why education is so very important, so that ignorant people such as the last "Anonymous said" comment (Feb 26 9:40am) will not exist. Check factcheck.org, none of that is correct or true. It is very important to check sources and use your common sense. The Obama garbage was passed around the internet to trash him, but none of it is true. Whether you like someone or not, do not be so ignorant as to not find out the truth. That is what will hurt (and has) our democracy, anarchy? As I said education, cool heads and common sense that is what we need. Which is also needed as far as the school board is concerned. Being on the school board is much more complex and difficult than most people think. They have to understand the budget (do you? this is directed at the angry people out there), they are to hire and supervise the Superintendent and set policy, all of these areas are complex. It is easy to complain and throw ugly comments about it, what is hard is to actually do it. Whoever is on the school board will face these same challenges and the angry people will again be angry. Untill you really have an educated understanding of the Boards job (which you won't unless you actually are one or you truly take the time and energy to educate yourself) you need to take a deep breath, go to meetings, actually talk to the board members and be open to the fact that some of the things you hear, just may not be what you want (and if you really understood the whole picture you too might understand why it is they vote one way or another.) There is compromise, discussion and a lot of education that takes place when you sit at the table of a school board. Before writing or complaining on the blog or to others educate yourself, it is amazing how the world looks when you actually understand it!

Anonymous said...

To Feb.26 poster...

Calling other posters on this blog "ignorant" is wrong in everyway. Instead of cutting them down, why don't you give your explanation about the IB program! After all, you’re the self proclaimed educated (arrogant) know-it-all…

So “Check factcheck.org” is your source of information, kind of limited if you ask me. I guess if “it” is said on the internet, it must be true. With a name like factcheck, how can that be wrong? Before you ask, yes I know factcheck.org is from the 2008 Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. Is this a non-partisan group?

So Chief: Why don’t you make every potential poster submit a copy of their college diploma prior to letting the “ignorant uneducated” people out there from posting anything on this blog. Better yet, let’s put them all on an island somewhere. Good old common sense says a lot.

Anonymous said...

When people make a post, beyond just a few words, they are basically posting their resume for all to see. As you have McCain, and the person before you.

Good luck in your continued attempts at feigning intelligence.

Anonymous said...

thank you, Go McCain, for your comments above. I for one agree with you completely. I am not ignorant or uneducated. If there is one thing I have learned in my life, it is not to believe everything I read or hear on the news. The media is very liberal and they rarely report the news accurately. The internet is hardly to be trusted for factual information! It is difficult to know for sure what is the truth anymore.

In the meantime, nobody has bothered to answer my question about what an international Baccalaureate school is, and what will it mean for Green Lake.

Anonymous said...

It's just another way for Green Lake School to bow out and not have to be responsible for it's self. They are always trying to reinvent itself instead of sticking to the basics. Why are so many parents trying to find a way out of this system via open enrollment? I will tell you why. The school does not know how to teach and they do not want to do their jobs. They have found a way to suck out all the money but put nothing back. And they do not want anyone to find them out. They are a bunch of clicky teacher/parents that control everything and they do not wish to blend with the others. Tom Brokaw said that public school was the great equalizer for all children rich and poor but not in Green Lake, Wisconsin.

Anonymous said...

I will vote for Dennis Deyo and Amy Pipho for sure so we can turn this turkey around.

Anonymous said...

Dennis and Amy will get my vote too. I'm afraid it's to late though. Wendy and her gang have done enough damage. It's time for change!

Anonymous said...

Don't forget to vote for Bill Boutwell also!

Anonymous said...

In response to Randy Fairwater, the International Baccalaureate was presented in considerable detail at a seminar by Deb Kneser at the school library several weeks ago, which was open to the public and posted in the newspapers. Because it was done with powerpoint and with handouts available, I would think anyone who wanted to get the facts on what the program is about could simply request a copy of those materials through the front office at school and they could help you with that.

I am curious about your comments about "they have found a way to suck all the money out,but put nothing back". Who are "they" exactly?

What money specifically do you refer to that somehow got sucked out? And what money did not get put back? I guess I would just like to understand exactly what that means and what facts back up those statements? .

Last, to the annonymous poster on March 1. 3:10pm.... who exactly is
"Wendy's Gang? and what is the damage that has been caused already thatsomehow would be fixed by Dennis and Amy? Thank you

Anonymous said...

Kool and the Gang will comment later, right now Kool has to go plow snow. However, it is apparent that there some real crazed folks in GL that have gone whacko after too long of a winter.

Kool Returns

Anonymous said...

I don't think any comment about the charter school, the IB curriculum, or anything else will satisfy the angry people who want to turn the school into the boot camp of their dreams. Just look at the comments that some of the commies have made about President Obama. I can't believe my eyes when I read that stuff. As far as I'm concerned when someone wants to insult the President of the United States because he went to Havard or some place like that instead of Priceton High School, well, that person can just go back to Disturbia or take another trip without leaving the farm.

Let freedom ring!

Anonymous said...

Did you forget to take your meds today?

Anonymous said...

No, my thoughts are approved by Scotty and then beamed over from a farm on the edge of town, just a little off of County K. Know what I'm sayin'?

The Russians are really coming this time!

Anonymous said...

No wonder that nobody has answered the question about what an International Baccalaureate school is, and why this information has not been made readily available in the local media. I am sure that anyone who attended the meeting received a sugar-coated version of the truth.

I have just done some reading about the International Baccalaureate program, and it is frightening that this is what our current administration has in mind for our schools, our children. The International Baccalaureate program is indoctrinating students into the New World Order. The New World Order is no longer just a conspiracy theory. It is a fact, publicly acknowledged by world leaders. Read up on the United Nations and where our country is headed, you will be as disturbed by this information as I am.

Please, I urge you to read the information on this websites:

www.edwatch.org/updates07/031707-IB.htm

http://www.theinsider.org/

Anonymous said...

OMG! you have to read the above website...WOW! thank you poster.

Anonymous said...

In response to anonymous march 2 9:52am (try using a fake name) International Baccalaureate (the fact that I have to waste my time trying to type this title) is the reason why I don't understand why a little school like Green Lake would chase this down instead of sticking to the basics. The "they" is Deb Kneser and the roving principals, other teachers, and superintendents that the school system has flipped through the last 15 years.You need to GET REAL and stop playing games.

Anonymous said...

Ok, I think it is official now, everyone that ever drove by the school is off their meds or they have taken to eating yellow snow.

I'm still not getting the stuff about the IB world order and President Obama. What does that mean?

Anonymous said...

I have read the information about the International Baccalaureate organization in the websites mentioned above. I am appalled that this is what Bates has planned for the Green Lake School system! This HAS TO BE STOPPED! For the people running for school board, please let the public know where you stand on this issue, as I will not be voting for anyone who supports the IBO. In a nutshell:

The IBO is part of the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations (ECOSOC). This organization teaches the very principles, beliefs, and values of the United Nations; values which conflict with the very founding of our country, our parental rights, and our faith.

IBO undermines the beliefs of our nation's founding fathers and endorses the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

This means that IB promotes the view that the United Nations has higher standing than the United States Supreme Court on issues of human rights involving U.S. citizens.

The IBO also undermines Christianity by calling upon students to engage in a "more" spiritual education using the principles of the Earth Charter, international law, and the Theory of Knowledge to create a global citizen where a common morality supersedes any specific culture's view of right and wrong. The goal of the IBO is to get the children into its schools early, preferably before age seven, because soon after that age they become much too questioning to accept a common view of morality and ethics.

At the heart of the IB approach is a view that no actual culture holds truth. The keystone course for the International Baccalaureate diploma is “Theory of Knowledge.”

A global citizen is one who understands the influences that have consigned the concepts of independent nation state, national company, and national economy to the history books? Last I checked the United States was still an independent nation state not a by-gone concept to read about in a history book! But that's the guiding philosophy of IBO.

Anonymous said...

Deb Kneser went on a trip to Europe and this is what she came back with.....isn't it amazing how one-sided an issue really is!!!
She needs to move to Europe if this is how she wants education to operate.....

Anonymous said...

Facts:
•Life in Green Lake is not what it was 20+ years ago. It’s not the school many of you attended.
•Our school is in a state of decline. State funds are tied to enrollment numbers.
•Community residents want a community school, but many vocal persons oppose the current administration and ideas and actions they have proposed.
•Residents would, for the most part, oppose merger with other area schools, however much sense this would make?
•Money drives everything and we have less of it every year.
•Payroll, benefits, utilities and other costs are accelerating at a rate like never before.
•New Board members will not carry a magic wand.
•There are no easy answers.
•Cuts will continue – are the arts and sports next?
•Baby boomers who planted themselves in Green Lake are not moving and their children are grown and gone.
•We live in a community and county with an aging population.
•Taxes are already too high
•New and Younger families the majority of the time, choose to live elsewhere.
•It will take many years for a charter school to build any kind of a reputation to attract new students.
•We don’t have the luxury of time.

Would you want to be on a board that has these facts to deal with?

Anonymous said...

So, you say:

Money drives everything and we have less of it every year.

Yes, the more students that enroll, the more money the school receives from the state. It does not help that our current school administration is driving people AWAY from the district.

YOu also say:

•Payroll, benefits, utilities and other costs are accelerating at a rate like never before.

It really makes me wonder why the current administration has received pay raises when other staff and programs are getting cut. Based on their performance, they should have received pay cuts, not raises.

We DO need new people on the school board, and we also need a new administration.

Also, if school staff is so easy to fire/let go of, then WHY hasn't the school let go of the "guidance" counselor and replaced her with a younger individual, thereby saving the district at least $30,000 per year. She is drastically overpaid, especially considering that she is out of touch with reality, plays favorites and from my experience, does an extremely poor job at being a guidance counselor.

Anonymous said...

I would think that if you let someone go based on age, and use that as the basis of "hiring someone younger, no matter the savings, they could claim age discrimination. You'd likely end up in court, have to compensate them or hire them back, etc.

Not sure you would find any savings there, beyond the individual retiring or buying them out.

Anonymous said...

What do people think about the entire FACE program being elminated?

Anonymous said...

I am not that familiar with the FACE program, which classes does this include? I do have an opinion about the tech-ed programs, however, The tech-ed program should be built up to accommodate the educational needs of the small town/rural Wisconsin student body that Green Lake High School is (and will continue to be.) The tech-ed program should be where we spend the most money, not the least. If my kids were still in school, I would buy them a car and send them to Ripon High School. Shame of the current administration for being so off base!

Anonymous said...

I read in the Ripon paper the school might also cut French or Spanish at the junior high level. What's going to be left?

Anonymous said...

FACE is family and consumer education. It's very similar to what used to be called home economics. I think that the students learn valuable skills in these classes.

Anonymous said...

I hope they have enough sense to cut the French class. You've noticed all those French speaking people moving to our community... wait, no, those were Spanish speaking folks. That's it, the most rapidly growing segment of our society. Children growing up today should be bilingual in Spanish and English by the time they graduate high school.

Anonymous said...

I hope they have enough sense to cut the French class. You've noticed all those French speaking people moving to our community... wait, no, those were Spanish speaking folks. That's it, the most rapidly growing segment of our society. Children growing up today should be bilingual in Spanish and English by the time they graduate high school.

Anonymous said...

How about the Spanish folks learning English, after all this is America…they should assimilate into our society and not force our kids to learn their language.

How about this take on the cutting of Tech-Ed, FACE, and several other electives the kids were able to choose from once upon a time- by cutting these elective classes, the students will have no choice but to sign up for the Charter classes that are going to be offered thus making (forcing) the Charter classes to be a successes at the expense of cutting some great electives and their teachers, like Mr. Krahn and his tech-ed program!

Anonymous said...

Oh Lord, more bigotry and narrow mindedness in small town Wisconsin.

The point about learning a language is that it's teaching our young people about other cultures around the world and providing them with the tools to go out and experience life beyond our own shores.
It isn't so they can go down to Dos Gringos and order an Enchilada dinner.

If you deny them that aspect of their education then they're just going to end up, well, like you!

Db

Anonymous said...

March 11, 7:55- You my friend are a great "brain". It must be oozing out of your head. How do you protect it?

Anonymous said...

i wear a hat

thanks

dave

Anonymous said...

If you run a business, and hire seasonal employees, you better think about learning Spanish. Also, if you do like many graduates of GLHS have done and leave this sheltered community after you graduate, you'll want to know Spanish for that also. By 2050 it's predicted that Hispanic folks will be the majority. The times are changing. Those kids graduating in the next ten years could spend a good bit of their working life in a bi-lingual world.

And yes, many Spanish speaking folks do learn English. They happen to be more comfortable with their native tongue, same as you would be if you moved to their country.

Su como son las cosas (Its how things are) Get used to it!

Anonymous said...

So, according to the above poster, we should just stand there a take it because it’s happening now. I know, let’s fly Mexico’s flag above the U.S. flag, and let’s make Spanish the official language. Let’s all learn Spanish and hell…lets all give up our native tongue, customs and heritage for “these seasonal” employees. GREAT IDEA

And “IF” I would move to another country, I would not expect the native folk to conform to my language, beliefs and customs IN ORDER FOR ME TO FIT INTO THEIR COMMUNITY; I would learn their language to make it EASER FOR ME TO FIT IN. Why is it wrong for Americans in this country to expect the same? I forgot, we are not allowed to express our opinions about this because if we do we will be called a bigot.

Anonymous said...

you stupid, stupid person. God help your offspring if you've figured out how to have any.

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous-

In case you forgot English was not the first language. The native tongue refers to Native Americans who in case you forgot were here before us!!

Anonymous said...

To the person who posted on March 14th at 11:06: Is anyone who has a different opinion than yours stupid? People can remain anonymous on this blog but that doesn't mean you should attack others like that.

The Blog Police

Anonymous said...

I recall one of my teachers at Green Lake high school teaching us about “democracy and living in a civil society”. She taught us that it is possible for 2 intelligent people that are well informed and having no special axe to grind could still end up with a difference of opinion on any given subject. Some of the bloggers on this site seem to have forgotten their civil lessons. We all are entitled to our opinions, but there is no need to accuse anyone that disagrees with us as being, stupid, ignorant, ill-informed or whatever other namecalling some bloggers use. Instead I would like to suggest that we exchange ideas on how we can improve our local schools.

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