What was the 60,000 spent on by the city for the annexation? I haven't quite figured that out yet? I I really would like to know more about Lindenwoods ability to finance this whole thing in this financial environment.
Nice apology by Ken G. in the paper this week. Front page news. I can't believe he wrote that to begin with. Anybody who would write that to begin with isn't thinking so what does that say about developing the ABA?
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The City received a $71,000 check from the petitioners for the City's expenses on Monday. All City expenses as of 12/31/07 have been paid.
GLCC and Lindenwood are both financially questionable. I would like to see GLCC accounting records and Lindenwoods, too. Plus I can't help but wonder WHO is financing Lindenwood?
Very good question.
I agree, the town and the city both have a right to know if there is enough money behind this venture to even make it a reality. I was glad to see that this question was raised at the meeting on Monday by Tom Eddy (as per the article in the GL Reporter), and hope that Lindenwood follows up with a solid financial report. It seems to me that the sewer, water and road work alone would have an enormous price tag. Let's say hypothetically that city would annex the ABA and development begins. Then Lindenwood runs out of money and everything sits there half-finished. They cannot afford to pay the property taxes to the city, the ABA sure can't afford to pay the taxes to the city because they can't even afford to pay their employee salaries. Besides, the ABA is developing so that they can expand their world-wide ministry (wink wink) The city is left with a huge ugly mess and the beauty that was once Lawsonia is destroyed. So just HOW is this supposed to work out? Like I said, this is just a hypothetical "what if" but needs to be considered.
I certainly, agree with your "what if" which could happen in the housing market today!
So, "crystal ball," because you wrote that the ABA "can't even afford to pay their employee salaries," would you be willing to support that statement? Which ABA employees haven't been paid?
And what's with the "(wink wink)"? Do you have something in your eye?
Paul - of course no one can say which employees have not been paid. Everyone knows that all the employees of the ABA live under a reign of terror, fearful of being fired and escorted off the property for anything Ken considers an offense. But the worst offense is to let any outsiders know about the inner workings of the cult that the ABA has become. I feel really sorry for the poor employee who leaked the memo that was quoted in the paper.
To anonymous who wrote that "The City received a $71,000 check from the petitioners..." that doesn't answer the Chief's question, which was "..for what?"
Anonymous talking to "Paul" Jan. 18 2008 7:16pm Post. If what you say is true about Ken and the ABA...The ABA must be being run by the Green Lake School administration also WOW!! "reign of terror", "fearful of being fired" "escorted off the property" have all been done by Bates/Tracy
The $71,000 has been Oct. thru Dec. expenses for our city engineer and lawyer fees. A smaller amount was for our regular city attorney who has to distance himself from this issue since he lives in the Town of Brooklyn.
I too am curious regarding the same question the annonymous blogger askes on Jan. 18th, 2:49pm,
regarding who is financing Lindenwood? I haven't read or heard anything in the paper or heard anything at any of the public meetings where they mention how they are financing this development. Just curious why the town of Brooklyn or the City of Green Lake hasn't brought that question in public? I would hope these government bodies have a clear understanding of how viable this developer isand who is backing them, before any agreements are signed that tie either entity to the future of this development. If for some reason, the developer has problems, where is there money coming from and who is holding the
risk on this venture. They have been silent about this, at least from what I have read in the papers or heard that was said at meetings. Makes you wonder...
Is it possible that the ABA actually took out a loan and gave the proceeds to Lindenwood and in return took the money back as a down payment?
The City is only dealing with the annexation issue at this point. Any future development must go thru a different process. At that point, the financial picture of any developer is then looked into. Annexation does not guarentee a development. The City uses a developer agreement for any development. That agreement has a way to protect the City if a development fails.
Good question...$71,000 for what?
What services were requested? Who approved the services? they were never requested nor approved by the city counsel. Mayor Joe requested attorney Sondalle to follow along...how much does that cost? Funny how they can discuss the approval of $15,000 truck for 20 minutes, but no approval for $71,000.
The look on Sondalle's and Kunkle's face when they said the counsel would not pay the bills is priceless!
Sorry, to break your bubble, but the city council did approve the use of the city engineer and lawyer for this annexation petition.
Say Chief, How about removing old items from last year on your blog. We are not interested in items from last June. Let's see this stay on current issues.
Who, when and where did they approve engineer services in an open council meeting for THIS annexation petition???
Hey Chief - I hear rumors that the City Council meeting about ABA/Lindenwood has been moved from Feb 25 to Feb 20. Is this true? And if so, why?
The date was moved to accomodate the lawyers that would need to be there, according to the council's wishes. The date is 2/20/08.
Dear "Not said"
According to the City of Green Lake Common Council meeting minutes, a letter of engagement with Foley and Lardner LLP (Mr. Henry Gempeler) was approved for planning and other land use issues. All six council members approved this engagement. The meeting was held on August 13, 2007. The council has a city engineer under contract for all City issues. I obtained a copy of the minutes and you can too at City Hall.
Yes, you are correct, the city does have an attorney and engineer consultants. They were contracted prior to this petition (and announcement) for annexation.
It is a shame that they have free reign to work on what ever they want to without council direction.
Aside from possibly the mayor, no council member ever requested engineering consulting for considering this petition for annexation. Engineering consulting was performed and invoiced in association with this annexation. The planning commitee did not request any consulting, the financial committee did not know of any consulting request. Who asked for the engineering services? Not to mention the other lawyer services.
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