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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 271 of 271C'mon, we can do better than this on Christmas eve, Green Lake. Relax, be with family and friends and get some Christmas spirit.
See you all back on Saturday, when we can all let the attack dogs out again.
If you don't want to blog for two days then don't. Quit trying to tell other people what to do. What are you some kind of control freak?
It is time to close the school and merge. Our kids will get a better education with more oportunities and without all the money and building problems....I have had it. I want to know why this 20% increase on my tax bill was not a referendum...and what was it for? I am pulling my kids out. I want the school to close asap. Let's face it, it is over. Green Lake is not going to grow in the next ten years and it has only declined year after year. I say stop all the fighting and just close it.
Green Lake is small and may not ever have been able to offer the newfangled "kitchen sink" of education society is always slobbering over. But Green Lake is small enough to have been able to control what it was, what it couldn't be, and what it could be the best at. Small, sophisticated, and excellent. The envy of larger schools that contends with so many teachers' wants and kids' needs. Could've been a HUGE draw for people to come live here for their kids to be educated by the creme of the crop.
But, GL and other schools had to spend money to get what it didn't have. What made it look pretty on the outside and hide the ugliness inside.
GL could've had it all. Now we're in the same boat as all the other little towns that are dying. Great.
I agree wholeheartedly with the last two bloggers. Ken Bates has nearly succeeded in destroying our school. I don't care if the school closes or not, but I want his egotistical ass out of here.
How's this for an idea? Close the school, sell the land that the ABA so graciously donated (so they would not have to pay the taxes on it any longer) and pay back the tax-payers who have had to fund Bate's delusional wet dreams of having his super-groovy oh-so-cool school/school/school. What the F is he smoking?
The article in this weeks paper got me sick to my stomach, basically ruined my Christmas I was so pissed off. Did you see how much more money Bates is trying to get for the school??? Why isn't our budget balanced? Why is there a $659,501 shortfall for 2010/2011? Gee, maybe because Ken Bates and company don't what the F_CK they are doing! And now they want MORE MORE MORE.
$775,000 for 2010/2011
$1,115,000 for 2011/2012
$1,380,000 for 2012/2013
This is OUTRAGEOUS! Of course the teachers want these referendums passed because they want to save their own asses. Personally, I don't care any more. Enough is enough.
Please contact your friends and neighbors, especially the ones who are able to vote but are not here in February, and urge them to obtain an absentee ballot and VOTE NO ON THIS REFERENDUM. This insanity at the school has to stop. Next year, a projected 275 students and Bates can't work with over $5 MILLION and figure out how to educate them. School Board, am disgusted with you, too! HOW DARE YOU BE SO IRRESPONSIBLE!
I don't want my kids going to Ripon. I want GL schools saved from the buttheads.
I really don't think you'll have much choice about your kids going to Ripon or not. To me, as much as I don't like the idea, it is a foregone conclusion there will come a day when the school closes, no matter what administrator or board members you put in place.
It's the declining population that is driving this, and that has more to do with jobs going away and the escalation of the cost of purchasing a home over the past 10-15 years. I think the school got caught in the crossfire of those two forces, because I see that same issue in storefront businesses going away, restaurants not making it, etc, in our community.
Say what you want about having different administrators, board members, etc. I don't know that the school would have done better or worse, given the outside economic forces at play here, that were beyond local control.
The numbers here don't support a school and the only reason we've been able to hold onto this one, is because we've had the luxury of taxation on waterfront property from part time residents.
If you look at most districts of same size around Wisconsin, over the past ten years that did not have the setup we do here in Green Lake of the waterfront properties, you would see a pattern of declining state dollars, loss of jobs in the communities, therefore mergers and closures.
I am not in favor of closing the school and merging, but I just don't see anything that will change the continued population decline and lack of economic growth, that will eventually force the issue.
Well, then we need to get rid of the buttheads! We need some common sense people on the school board to start with. NOT Dr. Jim Williams, NOT Julie Dosogne, NOT Celeste King.
The only way to save the school is to share an administrator (NOT Bates) and cut other administrative staff substantially. Replace OLD guidance counselor with entry level counselor. Get RID of Charter and International Baccalaureate Schools and other non-essential staff. Ten student per class is NOT acceptable. If we need to get rid of a few more teachers, so be it. Do you want to keep the school here in Green Lake, or not?
Forget it. These people are only willing to do two things: throw more money at the problem(s) or give up and blame anyone but themselves.
Big problems in small Green Lake. HUGE problems in bigger Ripon. Ripon's already fallen head over the heels into the vat of big city politics, charter schools, increased taxes, twisted administration, etc. Our kids are getting lost in the shuffle.
You are very quick to state who should not be on the board. Sounds like you have a pretty good idea of what you want your school board to be. How about running for school board yourself? Maybe you could fix everything.
We've had a number of board members over the years, and new ones right now and yet the blog is calling for their heads again, and saying how disgusted they are with them.
So how about running for the board and making the changes you are calling for?
So, someone who can not give the time to being on a school board because of a chronic, debilitating illness in the family is not allowed to express upset with a school board or district regarding how their tax dollars are being spent or kids' education is going down the tubes?
School districts, local government, state politicians, etc. have all learned quite well how to eliminate the people's voices and kiss the wealthy organizations' butts for money. It's all about taking the path of least resistance even if it means knowingly doing what is not right.
Hey, cry me a river. We all have issues and challenges and busy lives. You want to see change? Then be part of the change.
I'm just saying that too many people like to sit on the sidelines and complain when other people give of themselves of public service because that is very easy to do. Not so easy to carve out time, take a risk and get involved, is it?
I think people try to do a good job, and do these kinds of jobs or serve on these boards because they are interested citizens, yet all they get is people on the sidelines yelling to get rid of them, or screaming about how they could do the job so much better.
So if you can do the job better, then do it. Otherwise, try to be a little more appreciative of others who at least are willing to put themselves out there, willing to get involved.
I am perfectly willing and very capable of traveling outside of my "box" to recognize, be aware of, and appreciate what others are attempting to do from their hearts along with what thing others expect from them.
What I have a right to do, and I do very well, is point out and express serious concern over what is blatant ignorance or favoritism.
Do me a favor. Don't cry me a river, I have a enough to deal with without your misguided input and insensitive, violin sounds.
PEOPLE are a very important part of government, apart from the elected positions and political positioning. I am doing my best as a private citizen to voice what I think is wrong and what I think is right. I can not, at this time, do right by the public by taking an elected position. That is not whining, it is the realism in knowing I could not give my constituents the 150% they deserve.
Cry yourself a river, for yourself. Know when to pity yourself and stop judging others for their candid observations.
The referendum amounts are:
$775,000 for 2010/11
$1,115,000 for 2011/12
$1,380,000 for 2012/13
Not surprisingly, the dinky write-up in the Green Lake Reporter failed to clarify that the $1,380,000 would actually continue EVERY year thereafter. It doesn’t magically disappear in 2013. There’s no sunset on the tax effect. Thanks to this article, people will be even more confused.
If the School Board is truly concerned about having citizens make an informed decision, the referendum probably shouldn’t take place so soon. We have yet to hear any actual budget cuts that will be necessary if the vote fails. The district is saying “We need this to keep the status quo” but is not providing specific details about what’s at stake. What gives?
This is just insane. The school receives enough money to educate 290 children. They are wasting much of it, another out-of-control government spending spree. The school board and administration should realize this important fact: if you raise our taxes to the level you describe, people are not going to live here and the school will go under eventually. Keeping taxes down is key to keeping Green Lake schools open.
Please contact your friends and neighbors in Illinois,Florida, Arizona etc and make sure they know what is going on and remind them to send for an absentee ballot. We need to defeat this massive increase for our tiny little school.
All we really need is a FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE school administrator and school board. This referendum is unnecessary if the moron in charge knew what the hell he was doing.
As a parent of Green Lake students, I want to say to those persons attacking Ken Bates and other administrators, you are wrong, wrong, wrong.
Have you visted the school in the past two years? Green Lake is a regional leader for student test scores, college success and financially budget-wise school. That is because of educational leadership. (School referendums are commonplace throughout the state because of Former Republican governor Tommy Thompson's failed school funding attempts.)
Look to Green Lake's neighbors and you'll breath a sigh of relief when it comes to school tax relief.
Do you know what our students' perspectives are and how they feel about the innovative school initiatives? Do you take the time to listen to their opinions? Have you spoken to Green Lake graduates who attend(graduated from) technical college and four-year colleges?
When is the last time you attended a school board meetings? Are you aware of the formula for stae funding? Can you explain it to someone who doesn't understand it? Have you spoken to community leaders about the stakes involved if Green Lake loses its school? Did you realize everyone's taxes will increase and we will spend MORE if our school consolidates with another nearby school?
I hope you will take the time to examine every angle before you emotionally spout off. That is the easy (and lazy) way to suggest an impractical solution.
"I hope you will take the time to examine every angle before you emotionally spout off. That is the easy (and lazy) way to suggest an impractical solution."
You sound like you MAY have examined what angles were obvious to you and STILL concluded that the path of least resistance was easiest and best before spouting off with what are your one-sided suggestions but NO solutions.
You do sound like you've had the wool pulled over your eyes. It looks good on you...not for the rest of us though. Thanks.
That's fine. In can afford a major tax increase.
After Green Lake has a major tax hike because of school consolidation (never mind that our students will all be bussed outside the community), don't complain. It'll be to late.
You and your friends are very, very short-sighted.
I am a parent of Green Lake students also. I do attend school board meetings, I am aware of the state formula for funding, I am not impressed one bit with what is going on at the school. Your logic is ass backwards. How is this for logic: WHEN THERE IS LESS MONEY TO SPEND, THEN SPEND LESS MONEY.
Ironically, there has been much more money to spend, the budget has increased by several million dollars these past several years. And yet that is not enough to appease Ken Bates and the three-ring circus act he chooses to inflict upon us taxpayers.
No amount of your idolatry and misguided praise is going to make me think any differently. NO to a referendum. Period. We all have to live within our means. Time for the school to do the same.
OK, let's be assbackward.
Refuse the referendum. Close the school.
Then bus our students away from Green Lake. (More TAXES.)
Then create a climate that ignores young families for moving to Green Lake. (More TAXES.)
Then, let's drive to a neighboring town and applaude our students who belong to the neighboring town.
Assbackwards. Right.
That's fine. In can afford a major tax increase.
"After Green Lake has a major tax hike because of school consolidation (never mind that our students will all be bussed outside the community), don't complain. It'll be to late. You and your friends are very, very short-sighted."
So, you can afford to keep buying the stupidity for the convenience of not having the kids bussed out of the community?
The POINT is: to STOP abusing the limited budget and KEEP the kids in our community!! How short sighted can you get?
Do not give school any more money and do not stop there! Force the school to do what it has to with the money it has, and firmly hold the school administrators and the teachers' union accountable for both of their parts in eroding our kids' education and pickpocketing the taxpayers!
Are school administrators and school board all to blame? Of course not! But they are a HUGE part of the problem and the easiest part of the problem to FIX!
Then go after the teacher' union (not the teachers per say). Show these damn unions what NO MORE MONEY to hide their flagrant abuse of power means by pointing out their blame of the whole mess!
This rigoramole did not happen over night and it will not get fixed over night! Eat healthy, get good sleep, and take it to the mat because taking it to the mat for the long haul is what it's going to take.
For those of you who can sit back a while longer and take it up the bank account because you can afford it, try caring about more than just yourself and stop this fat-cat apathy that has created and allowed this humongous problem in the first place!
Feeling timid and yearning to see what others will do first? When you see one or two people fighting the good fight - STAND UP FOR THEM and publicly support them! The whole process of participating in and holding local government and school districts accountable would be a heck of alot easier and productive if we reminded the powers that be what they job is, how to do it, and what we will not tolerate any longer. They won't listen to one or two people but they WILL listen to a majority - don't wait until it's too late and new and improved regulations are no longer in the underdog's favor!
I could have sworn Meade Grim and Amy Pipho were elected by a large majority, based on promises of fiscal conservatism. Yet I see in the record, they both voted yes for this referendum.
Either they are not listening to their constituents who put them in office, or they have changed their thinking or see things differently about the budget, now that they are on the board.
Which is it?
I actually love Green Lake...love the community ('warts' and all). But, with the increase in taxes; all the BS going on with the school; the lack of civility within the city council; the inability of the city and town to get along; etc....
My house will be on the market as soon as feasibly possible.
For what I pay in taxes and what I get as a result...there is nothing to keep me here.
It's a sad testimonial but it is, what it is!
I feel the same way, above poster! I made compromises (even sacrifices) as far as convenience and extra amenities, to move to this area only to find that the big city politics I tried to escape has finally penetrated even the smaller, still beautiful towns. I've seen more ignorance in this area that could hold me over for a life time! I must admit, I never saw it coming but I got stuck in the middle of it!
I've also thought of moving as soon as its feasible, but where? Is my choice of situations one of only two? Land of smart jerks or land of polite ignoramuses? Is there land anywhere that is controlled and preserved with intelligent, nice, and class?
To the last blogger, I would say hang in there. I understand about moving from the bigger city to try to escape. Which I did escape from a lot. Traffic jams, high crime rates, violence, indifference everywhere. Everything costing so much to entertain yourself.
It is true what you say about some things here. Small town politics, and some amazing ignorance and intolerance and small mindedness.
But you also do meet some very nice people. I have been able to do so, and some people with interesting backgrounds, and variety of talents and interests.
You just probably won't meet them at the end of a bar stool.
There is also the natural beauty, incredible wildlife, quaintness of small town events like Memorial Day, and Golden Days Harvest Fest and the fireworks on the lake at the 4th.
And there is the lake. One of the best lakes around the Midwest.
I have been on that lake at sunrise, and late at night when it is full of stars.
There are also people who care, people who will go out of their way.
I've had nice doctors take care of me when needed, seen some very good performances at Thrasher Opera House, attended symphony performances at Ripon College, listened to some great high school band concerts, attended some fun school plays, enjoyed the annual art fair, watched some high energy basketball games and met some very nice teachers, shopkeepers and service people.
I've watched and supported all kinds of efforts that take place around here, to raise money for safety equipment, scholarships, police work, veterans, school trips, mission trips, families with medical burdens, youth programs, sports, and more.
I just choose to ignore and avoid the ignorance in the politics and the intolerance when it has surfaced. I'm coming to the conclusion that is everywhere.
Green Lake has much good about it as well. You just have to look to find it.
"Green Lake has much good about it as well. You just have to look to find it."
I believe there is much good and I find myself having to fight so hard to fight against the ignorance and ruin of what I know enough to recognize as beautiful. I don't hate the area just because I'm so angry at the ugly stuff going on around it, I love it. It's worth fighting for and preserving. Thanks for the cheerful reminder - can always use some of that! ;)
Amy and Meade (so far) are honest board members who believe that it is worthwhile to support and invest in students and the community. They appear to get it.
Mr. Deyo? He is a disgusting disgrace. It is obvious that he grinds an axe against his former employer (the school!) who gave him $20,000+ for early retirement. Big mistake on the part of the school board. (You should be ashamed, Mr. Deyo. How can you show your face in public? And you refuse to vote to approve a 15-cent per hour increase to school support staff??? I hope you are recalled. Tell us you are giving the money back to the taxpayers!)
For those bloggers who constantly criticize the school, I encourage you to run for school board. If you are elected, we look forward to see how your opinions change toward our school.
"For those bloggers who constantly criticize the school, I encourage you to run for school board. If you are elected, we look forward to see how your opinions change toward our school."
First, only a certain number of people can be elected, and that does not and should not exclude the voices of the parents and/or taxpayers.
Second, Santa Claus himself couldn't make any positive changes on the school board unless enough of the other members are willing to take a stand, do their research, and stop behaving like lemmings.
Whats the thing with Dennis Deyo? Why did he get special treatment especially when the economy is so bad? How does he rate a 20 thousand dollar pay out just to retire while most of us are struggling to make ends meet? What a hypocrit. Now he sits on the school board and comes across like he is concerned about spending money. He is a fake!
Wait a minute here folks. Who said the school would close if the referendum doesn't go through? Who is spouting these asinine scare tactics? As far as I know, no study has even been initiated to determine what the results of a failed referendum would mean as far as teachers lost or school closings. This is BS, pure and simple.
I personally am very disappointed in Amy Pipho and Meade Grim. I voted for Amy and am now regretting that decision. She does not represent my views as I thought she did at election time. At this point I feel that Harley and Dennis are the only ones on the board with any common sense.
This previous blogger got it right when they said:
"The POINT is: to STOP abusing the limited budget and KEEP the kids in our community!! How short sighted can you get?"
That is what it all boils down to and yet this common sense solution is just too simple for the brainless people to understand. In my opinion, it is the only way to save the school. A passed referendum for the RIDICULOUS amount of money the school is seeking on an UNENDING basis will drive families away from Green Lake faster than you can possible imagine. Maybe the older retirees can afford higher taxes (I doubt it) but families with children are already struggling to make ends meet. You want to decrease enrollment to extremes, just pass the referendum and then watch the school consolidate within several years.
I agree with you completely. Maybe (?) the people who live in the town of Brooklyn don't understand how high the taxes are in the City. We will not be able to afford to live in our own home much longer even though my spouse and I both work and live very frugally. We have a modest home in the city and pay almost $400 per month just in property taxes. A passed referendum will force us to sell the house and move.
It doesn't have to be this way. We could find an administrator who does not suffer from delusions of grandeur and runs the school like a Washington democrat. Cut the pork. Get rid of the extra expenses and our students would receive a fine education in a "normal" school setting.
Let's get back to "normal".
To those fools who are so upset about an early retirement settlement given to Dennis Deyo, consider this. You gave $40,000 or so to a complete failure by the name of ejon just to leave (but worth every penny to do so)! You pay Bates a ridiculous amount of $ to run your school into the ground.
Retirement packages are nothing new. You can find others from GL who received them over the years. Deyo gave 30+ years teaching your children and many know he did it selflessly and in good faith. Districts actually save money in most retirement packages like this because they can hire younger, less expensive teachers. Whether that is worth is is questionnable, though. New and younger does not translate into better. Sometimes it does. It depends on who is hired. Experience is hard to duplicate and if an experienced person is dedicated, new and younger is not better for the students.
“Mr. Deyo? He is a disgusting disgrace.”
The person attacking Dennis Deyo shouldn’t throw stones from a glass house. Under the former School Board leadership, Dennis was repeatedly badgered in closed session because of a vague rumor. In fact, the former School Board leadership wanted him to resign. Apparently, they wanted to replace him with “one of their own” so they could increase the Board’s majority. But thankfully, Dennis stuck to his guns. He realized he had rights. Then in April 2009, the Board majority flip-flopped when Celest became Meade. The old leadership was minimized due to the will of the people … and the closed-session badgering of Dennis has ended. Coincidence?
Why did the former leadership use closed session to accuse Dennis? Obviously, the evidence wasn’t strong enough to bring the matter before the public and force him out.
As for the comments about Dennis, that angry blogger should focus on something other than personal, petty attacks. Dennis has been a thoughtful, caring School Board member. There’s a reason he was elected in a landslide. He brings the perspective of a teacher and taxpayer. He listens to people. Certain people may not like him for voting against the staff raises, but in this economy with another school referendum looming, it’s not unreasonable to freeze wages when the school is going broke. Lots of people aren’t getting a raise this year. Many of us didn’t get one last year, either. School staff members need to fall in line.
Hang in there, Dennis. We appreciate what you do!
Amen to that! Dennis, you and Harley and the best thing that the school has going for them right now. Keep up the great work. Without you both, Green Lake schools are doomed.
I have been reading these posts and have one question for the pro-referendum people. Are you CRAZY?
The school currently receives an obscene amount of money to educate a mere 300 (or less?) students. Do you realize that you could run an EXCLUSIVE BOARDING SCHOOL for less money that what Green Lake public schools operates on? And now they want MORE money?
Two words for you: VOTE NO!
I'd like to see the facts to back up your comment about the cost of running a boarding school vs. Green Lake. What exactly are you using as the basis of your comparison?
You are missing the point. Use your brain and consider that if you had nearly 6 MILLION DOLLARS you could house, feed, clothe and educate 290 students quite nicely for nine months. School's rampant spending must end.
I agree! Very interesting to contemplate. Not only that, but I think it could be done for much less!
Wayland Academy charges $38,300 per year, the average for a boarding school nationally is $39,900 per year. 38,300 times 290 = more than 6 million ( in fact it is over 11 million). Your statement does not hold up. And Wayland has many benefactors paying money to the school on top of the tuition dollars.
Thank you to the last blogger for calling BS on someone's statement, using the Wayland Academy example, and the fact that they also benefit from private contributions and endowments, neither of which Green Lake has.
The math doesn't add up that you could run a boarding school for the money we spend at Green Lake for the same number of students, and this is a very good example of someone just throwing some random comment out there, making it sound like they know what they are talking about and getting riled up, about nothing.
I am just curious about a few of the recent posts. If Dennis Deyo is doing such a great job, why is it that so far all he has managed to accomplish during his term on the board is, falling asleep at board meetings, coming to meetings clearly not prepared by not having read his packet of materials when he opens them for the first time in front of the audience, and got himself right smack in the middle of some unethical behavior by one of the teachers, and not having the integrity to publicly admit and apologize for his part in slandering innocent people.
Can anyone name anything concrete he has done so far since he was elected?
If I am not mistaken, Wayland Academy is a "for profit" private school and is not tax exempt like a public school. I still stick to my belief that you could educate 290 students very nicely for $6 million.
I would agree with that as long as we are talking about public school, day attendance and not boarding school. As one of the previous bloggers showed,... no comparison to the cost of a boarding school.
To the person who said Dennis did not have “the integrity to publicly admit and apologize”
It’s my understanding that Dennis did apologize to the people affected. If his discipline/reprimanding took place behind closed doors, why should he apologize again, in public? One apology is enough.
You can’t have it both ways. If the School Board wanted Dennis to apologize publicly, then the matter should have been discussed in public. But since the leadership wanted it kept behind closed doors (which is understandable in this case) then Dennis does not need to do anything outside of closed session, either. It’s over and done with. Old news. Move on already.
As for what Dennis has done as a School Board member, it’s already been stated that he brings the perspective of both a teacher and taxpayer. He listens to people. He’s polite and respectful to those with differing views. He’s fiscally responsible.
Okay, so I exaggerated to make a point. But consider these simple figures, rounded off to make it easier. There are 181 days in a Wisconsin school year. If you have a 6 million dollar budget, that equal $33,150 per day to operate the school! Divide that by 300 students, and you have $110 per day PER STUDENT. Hell, you could rent each student a private hotel room and pay a private tutor for that kind of money. Honestly. And that isn't enough for Ken Bates and his out of control spend happy school board?
I hope and pray that the referendum is a massive failure so that the school finally receives the message loud and clear.
It is very likely that Bates does not get board packets to members far enough in advance for all members to be 100% on top of what is in them. (Sounds like a certain federal administration, doesn't it?)
The radical left is alive and present at GL school in the form of administration.
It sure is. I have heard that often times the materials that board members are supposed to receive ahead of time are not ready until the meeting begins. Whoever is trying to smear Dennis Deyo with their bogus blogs most likely works at the school and is trying to cast attention away from the subject of the referendum. A typical low-life maneuver to divert the matter at hand and cast shame and blame on the innocent.
2010 Predictions for the School.
I have looked into the crystal ball and seen the following for the next year.
1. Someone will finally introduce Dennis Deyo to computers and e-mail. The efficiency of board communication will be greatly enhanced.
2. A mysterious weekend visitor will win the powerball and donate the winnings to endow the school.
The referendum question will go away and the blog will die for lack of something to complain about.
3. People will actually care about what is going on, and attend school board meetings. ( Other than the 3-5 people who are already attending.
4. The Ripon Commonwealth will print an article about the school, just stating the facts with no editorial bias.
5. Mr. Ellis snake will be allowed to return to his terrarium in the classroom, and kids will learn more.
6. Harley will actually attend a school function, other than a finance committee meeting, and discover the school has a basketball team, an orchestra, school plays, and an annual graduation ceremony.
7. Ten people will run for the school board vacant spots. A virtual tie will occur in the voting. Votes will be recounted and because of hanging chads, the Wisconsin Supreme Court will be called into duty to elect the wrong winners.
Happy New Year.
"Whoever is trying to smear Dennis Deyo with their bogus blogs most likely works at the school and is trying to cast attention away from the subject of the referendum."
Oh, give us a break. You are a hypocrit. While trashing the school administration, you go on to say, "typical low-life maneuver to divert the matter at hand and cast shame and blame on the innocent."
Mr. Deyo is no innocent. He is an ex-teacher who enjoys a taxpayer buyout with an axe to grind with the very people who agreed to give it to him at his request!
I know first-hand because I listened to his complaining and accusations during parent-teacher conferences for my child. What a conference.
Mr. Deyo is no "innocent". It is common knowledge that he was one of two teachers who invented (lied!) about sexual relations between the superintent and school board president.
Just who is "trying to cast attention away from the subject of the referendum"?
Mr. Deyo is not who you think he is.
Thank you for telling me about about sexual relations between the superintent and school board president. I had not heard that tasty tidbit of information before. Now look who is spreading gossip.
I have heard the same "gossip" along with many parents in the community.
In the past I think Dennis Deyo was a good teacher most times, but he makes for a poor school board member.
Why doesn't someone just ask him directly about the accusations about Mr. Bates and the school board president?
A blogger a few posts back said, "It’s my understanding that Dennis did apologize to the people affected. If his discipline/reprimanding took place behind closed doors, why should he apologize again, in public? One apology is enough.
You can’t have it both ways. If the School Board wanted Dennis to apologize publicly, then the matter should have been discussed in public. But since the leadership wanted it kept behind closed doors (which is understandable in this case) then Dennis does not need to do anything outside of closed session, either. It’s over and done with. Old news. Move on already."
I cannot agree with this logic. Dennis, when he joined in with this poor display of unethical behavior, spreading unfounded malicious gossip, the kind of stuff that can destroy peoples lives or careers, did so while acting in his role as a school board member, an elected public position. He had no problem doing this with a teacher and a staff member and then wanted to see it pushed under the rug, to avoid having to publicly apologize for the hurt and unethical behavior he participated in as a board member. His actions were not in the best interest of the school, the community or innocent individuals. If he were truly sorry, he would grow some balls and have stated he was wrong and apologized in a public setting, so all of his supporters, the people who voted him in, could see for themselves, the poor job he has been doing. Whether he would stay or go would have to follow due process, but at least the information would be out in public, where it should be, and he would have had the minimum respect of owning his actions.
Why do you think the "Mr. Deyo comments" were dealt with in closed session??? Could it be that there was a ring of truth to the comment and those who were closest to the situation didn't want their dirty laundry aired in public. I would think if they had nothing to hide it wouldn't have bothered them in the least to have this discussed in open session.....
As always the Mr. Deyo comment was another example of a school district employee with an axe to grind and the feeling they've been backed into a corner to help keep their job. You see if you "tattle" on school district employees and board members that puts you on the "A" team and you are worshipped by an administration who likes to keep abreast of things by listening to and pursuing gossip. Too bad the person who claimed Mr. Deyo and another district employee made nasty comments didn't admit that they also participated in the conversation happily! Kudos to Mr. Deyo and the other school district employee for not selling the snitch up the river. They have never stooped to the level of the tattler and administration and divulged what that tattler said during the course of the situation. When you know WAY more than the general public you wish they could walk a mile in school district employees shoes....they'd NEVER believe what actually happens at 612 Mill St. if they were told!
Gee, I thought this was America, at least for a little while longer. If Mr. Deyo joked or even suggested something in a private conversation, he has nothing to apologize for, even if he is a school board member.
Okay, lets settle this once and for all. Give Ken Bates and Wendy Schultz a lie detector test. If they both pass, then we go from there. If they fail the test, then Dennis retracts his apology and Ken Bates resigns immediately and Wendy Schultz steps down from the school board.
Sounds fair to me!
That does sound reasonable. After all, if the allegations are true...
I'm thinking it's time to move on, and I hope more people on the blog will feel similar. I have no thought about anything positive happening any more, either way on this subject.
I hope the school board and the community will turn their focus to the future of the district and what will make the best sense for setting the course of action to best help students and families.
Has anyone noticed we have one kick ass boys basketball team this year, and they are leading the conference? Should be some exciting home games to watch in January. Get the green on and help add some spirit for this team!
I agree. Those kids are playing their hearts out and Green Lake should be proud of the team and our coach.
Damn straight. Let's bring out the lie detector and make things right. There's no way we can believe anything, or anybody, without the benefit of technology!
Let's hook em' all up (let's hope they ain't been 'hooked up' before) and let the chips fall where they may.
And in the mean time....Go Green Lakers!
If we can put some of this BS behind us, maybe we can start being a part of the community again!
Anyone know how the team did in the tournament?
Stay safe out there tonight, all you bloggers. We want to see everyone back safe and well tomorrow, just in time to start a new year of issues to blog about.
So who can we get to run for school board? Any suggestions out there?
I know of one fiscally responsible, capable, intelligent person who has filed papers to run. Here's a clue, it is not Celeste King or Dr. Williams.
ACTUAL STATEMENTS FROM IB STUDENTS
1. A.K.A. International Baccalaureate - A malicious program aimed at the unnaturally brighter population in an attempt to overload their brains, thus reducing them to vegetables without lives. However, a true IB student will respond by adapting and bsing their way through.
IB, therefore I BS.
IB - Teaching students how to turn shit into gold!
2. A program created in an attempt to control the minds of the youths of the future, implemented by Swiss lawn gnomes, by preventing their exposure to the outside world.
The state goals of the program are to provide students with an education rounded out accross five program areas ("groups") - including Language 1, Language 2, Social Sciences, Science, Math, and Art/Option. Additional elements of the program include CAS (a system used to force students out of the house once in a while), ToK (philosophy) and Extended Essay.
In an attempt to shove too much information down the throats of students, the program ends up significantly improving the core skill required to succeed in IB: Bullshit. The phrase I.B. therefore I B.S. comes from this.
IB teaches students to turn shit into gold.
3.Commonly thought to be a magnet program, International Baccalaureate is in reality a cleverly disguised plot to steal the souls, sleep, and free wills of high school students. Pros include mad bs'ing skills
See also: Academic Suicide
I am, therefore I B
I B, therefore I stress
I stress, therefore IBS
4. The International Baccalaureate Program is an organization dedicated to the predation of young minds through manipulation and psycological brainwashing. It corrupts students into believing that they are part of a priviledged and elite society of more intelligent beings and raises its own prestige by forcing students to commit to nineteen hour work days, thereby causing parents to believe that the massive and unreasonable amount of travail must equate with a higher education. This in turn deters the ordinarily rational parents from protesting when asked to pay absurd amounts of money for exams that their children grow to despise. It is not until their fourth year in this fraudulent program that the participants realize that this course has no effect on the colleges to which they intend to apply. By this time, the student has already dedicated thousands of hours to this corporation (doubt not that it is indeed a corporation) and human nature insists that they complete the program.
Its long, unpronounceable and un-spellable name only adds to its supposed prominence.
In short, this institution is designed to swindle valuable money and time away from its members by exploiting competitive young adults.
an essential part of surviving IB is knowing the intimidating effect of a thesaurus
We need to get the international baccalaureate program out of Green Lakes schools!
What a load of trash you are spewing out here about the IB program.
You list a few quotes from "students", yet you list no specific source to validate.
I note you do not give any positive quotes from IB students or parents of students.
Surely those exist as well, since thousands of students around the world and in the US have gone through an IB experience.
I wonder if you even read what you wrote. To presume a program teaches students not to think, yet it would be endorsed and allowed in the US education system, is ludicrous.
No doubt holes can be poked into some of the curriculum as would be true with any program out there.
But I think you have a better chance of presenting "proof" that martians have indeed landed here, than validating your facts.
Charter schools are by FAR not the crux of a child's need to learn the basics. But charter schools are sucking off of resources that are supposed to be used for those basics. In the end, charters schools that ain't all their cracked up to be and the ability to teach necessary basics systematically eroded.
I would like to see both the charter school and the IB program out of the Green Lake School system. The more I read about the IB, the more I cannot believe it has been implemented here. It is a lot of United Nations ultra-liberal bull crap. The charter school is a waste of time and money and simply is not necessary. The school already had an emphasis on "green" and nature before the Charter school came along. I don't have a problem with that. Let's go back to being what we have been for generations before us: A regular school!
The very fact that the current administration cannot work within it's budget is proof that these two special schools within a school are sapping the resources intended for ALL children. It sucks.
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